Dagger Genesis or Rival

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I tested the Genesis a couple of years ago. I found it a little tippy. I
went for the Caption and rigged it for solo. The Caption is only about 1
foot longer than the Genesis and I think drier and more stable. Depends
on what kind of paddling you will do. I guess the Genesis will allow more
play, although the Caption will roll easily.

Tippy? The Gen was designed for the big water of the Grand Canyon and has met the test there again and again. Show me a solo boat with more initial stability, and I'll show you a boat the manufacturer recommends for beginner to intermediate paddlers on class II water.

[danny V.]

Put a "me too" on that. If you think a Genesis is tippy, perhaps you should be looking at a kayak. Initial stability means little (although the Genesis had more initial then most ww boats) but what counts is secondary. And the Genesis had tons of secondary stability.

Hard to grasp discussing a Caption when talking about play boats. Oh hell, lets just paddle a Dimension alone, and be REAL secure!

-Dan

Tippy? The Gen was designed for the big water of the Grand Canyon and has m=
et the test there again and again. Show me a solo boat with more initial st=
ability, and I'll show you a boat the manufacturer recommends for beginner =
to intermediate paddlers on class II water.

[bo diddley]

I love that the year is now 2021 and I'm reading reviews for a whitewater Canoe from 1996 lol... it must not have been that bad if I'm considering buying one! I'll put it on my 91' Saab and keep it vintage hipster on the water and still probably have the best value, and for the price I'm considering buying it - it will probably be appreciating as an antique rather than depreciating! Serious question though: Dagger Genesis or Mad River Outrage - I'm using this as a creek boat in WV and potentially PA/ MD / VA; I want something that can handle a dog and flat water and up to Class III realistically - as we likely aren't going to seek out the biggest most dangerous rapids unless I get skilled and leave the dog at home.